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YaNK_
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Posts: 20
White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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on:
July 31, 2008, 11:38:55 PM »
4 Fetid Heath
5 Swamp
12 Plains
3 Divinity of Pride
3 Voracious Hatchling
4 Nip Gwyllion
3 Archon of Justice
3 Nobilis of War
3 Oversoul of Dusk
4 Unmake
4 Prison Term
4 Oblivion Ring
3 Recumbent Bliss
3 Syphon Life
2 Light from Within
The way I constructed this deck was on 3 points
-Removal/Disruption
-Gap
-Big Assault
The plan of attack is survive early on with all the removal, while creating a gap via, Nip Gwylion, and Syphon Life, then with the Lifelink later, my big creatures can come out for a kill.
Help? Thoughts? Ideas?
This deck actually beat a pretty competetative Fairy Deck, I think it has some potential.
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imachampion
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Posts: 1,271
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Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #1 on:
August 01, 2008, 08:26:34 AM »
I really like the idea of BW in Block and even in Standard. My version was a little more aggressive featuring
Makeshift Mannequin
and
Stillmoon Cavaliers
. I am still in testing though so...my opinions will have to wait.
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leesteht
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MTGO: LandK
Posts: 451
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #2 on:
August 01, 2008, 10:38:06 AM »
I came up with a decent B/W deck, but it just wasn't consistent enough.
Looking at the trends today, you MUST have cards that do multiple things. For example:
Bitterblossom - A Faerie AND multiple permanents
Profane Command - Removal/Recurr
Perfect - Pumping Elves and creating them
The problem I had with B/W was that I just kept drawing lands. Or, it I would merely lose due to attrition.
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imachampion
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Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #3 on:
August 01, 2008, 12:52:57 PM »
What about this:
Lands: 26
4
Fetid Heath
4
Mutavault
8
Swamp
10
Plains
Creatures: 12
4
Stillmoon Cavaliers
4
Shriekmaw
4
Archon of Justice
Spells: 23
4
Thoughtseize
2
Raven's Crime
4
Bitterblossom
4
Recumbent Bliss
2
Prison Term
4
Unmake
3
Hallowed Burial
I am still testing things out but...I think this style deck may have the power to push through this meta. I am still very much undecided on a sideboard strategy but...I think that it would focus on utility creatures. Just thought I would give some ideas.
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You miss 100% of the shots you never take. -Wayne Gretzky
If you got everything that you wished for...there would be nothing left to wish for.
YaNK_
Newbie
Posts: 20
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #4 on:
August 01, 2008, 05:22:55 PM »
Quote from: imachampion on August 01, 2008, 12:52:57 PM
What about this:
Lands: 26
4
Fetid Heath
4
Mutavault
8
Swamp
10
Plains
Creatures: 12
4
Stillmoon Cavaliers
4
Shriekmaw
4
Archon of Justice
Spells: 23
4
Thoughtseize
2
Raven's Crime
4
Bitterblossom
4
Recumbent Bliss
2
Prison Term
4
Unmake
3
Hallowed Burial
I am still testing things out but...I think this style deck may have the power to push through this meta. I am still very much undecided on a sideboard strategy but...I think that it would focus on utility creatures. Just thought I would give some ideas.
Ya that seems to work well, but I was thinking that since with the mass disables, you would want some big creatures to destroy them quick after you get them all tied down. Thats why the avatars came to mind
On the riders, I really dont like it is as a card.
I rather use restless apparation instead.
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imachampion
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Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #5 on:
August 02, 2008, 09:33:06 AM »
Have you played with
Stillmoon Cavaliers
? Try him. You will be a believer.
Archon of Justice
could just as easily be
Divinity of Pride
. I was looking that both were 4/4 fliers...
Archon of Justice
is a damned if you do...damned if you don't type of card that I thought played well. This is still rather untested.
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YaNK_
Newbie
Posts: 20
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #6 on:
August 02, 2008, 12:40:25 PM »
I played stillmoon, i just like restless more
Same drop so.
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imachampion
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Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #7 on:
August 02, 2008, 10:51:47 PM »
Quote from: YaNK_ on August 02, 2008, 12:40:25 PM
I played stillmoon, i just like restless more
Same drop so.
I guess its a difference of opinions then. I just really like that if your opponent isn't playing Red...Faeries...then
Stillmoon Cavaliers
is just a savage ruthless beating. Not only is it unblockable...its unremovable. Just something to think about.
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Lythand
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MTGO: Lythand
Posts: 433
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #8 on:
August 03, 2008, 07:08:27 AM »
Quote from: imachampion on August 01, 2008, 12:52:57 PM
What about this:
Lands: 26
4
Fetid Heath
4
Mutavault
8
Swamp
10
Plains
Creatures: 12
4
Stillmoon Cavaliers
4
Shriekmaw
4
Archon of Justice
Spells: 23
4
Thoughtseize
2
Raven's Crime
4
Bitterblossom
4
Recumbent Bliss
2
Prison Term
4
Unmake
3
Hallowed Burial
I am still testing things out but...I think this style deck may have the power to push through this meta. I am still very much undecided on a sideboard strategy but...I think that it would focus on utility creatures. Just thought I would give some ideas.
I like this build. What about
Demigod of Revenge
for a finisher?
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imachampion
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Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #9 on:
August 03, 2008, 10:48:40 AM »
Quote from: Lythand on August 03, 2008, 07:08:27 AM
I like this build. What about
Demigod of Revenge
for a finisher?
hmm...I hadn't thought about him. He would undoubtably take
Archon of Justice
's spot...and we would have to rearrange some mana...but that may be worth testing.
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The next time you think you are perfect...try walking on water.
You miss 100% of the shots you never take. -Wayne Gretzky
If you got everything that you wished for...there would be nothing left to wish for.
YaNK_
Newbie
Posts: 20
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #10 on:
August 03, 2008, 02:02:35 PM »
I took some changes and...
23 Lands
4
Fetid Heath
12
Plains
7
Swamps
13 Creatures
3
Archon of Justice
3
Shriekmaw
3
Restless Apparation
4
Stillmoon Cavalier
24 Spells
4
Unmake
3
Prison Term
3
Oblivion Ring
3
Recumbent Bliss
3
Bitterblossom
2
Ravens Crime
2
Hallowed Burial
4
Thoughtseize
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OmNiCiDe
Newbie
MTGO: OmNiCiDe
Posts: 2
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #11 on:
August 09, 2008, 01:05:13 AM »
I Haven't even had an oppurtunity to try this at a full blown FNM yet, and prolly won't have a chance for atleast 2 weeks (the guy that runs the tournies at my store will be at GenCon) But It beat a few powerful decks in the playtests we did...
Sorry in advance I don't know how to autocard on this site, my first post on these forums
nvm, found it
4
Nameless Inversion
4
Unmake
4
Oblivion Ring
4
Makeshift Mannequin
4
Hallowed Burial
4
Festercreep
4
Stillmoon Cavalier
4
Shriekmaw
4
Archon of Justice
8
Swamps
12
Plains
4
Fetid Heath
I have everything here cept the fetid heaths, i've been running 10 swamp 14 plains, should probably even it out to 12/12 No one around here plays fairie decks, i assume none of them want to fork out the money, but did fairly well against U/G Aggro/Control and very well G/R Big Mana also went against a competitive Scarecrow Deck (seriously) and lost some close matches, just didn't get an answer to Mishra in time and didn't topdeck Hallowed Burial on the final turn ;), I'm not as active in competitive magic as I would like to be, but i feel this is one of the stronger Deck lists i've come up with over the years.
Criticism Appreciated
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Last Edit: August 09, 2008, 01:13:11 AM by OmNiCiDe
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Wolfstalker
Sr. Member
Posts: 278
Re: White/Splash Black Removal/Big Creatures
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Reply #12 on:
August 09, 2008, 06:09:45 PM »
I was thinking about making a mono white deck, my problem, of course is instant removal. Plus i dont have thoughtseize and stuff. bitterblossom too, but i dont have the money for the blossom
I have some things that i wanted to include and here is an idea. many things would need to be tweaked of course.
14 creatures
4
Figure of Destiny
2
Divinity of Pride
2
Oversoul of Dusk
2
kitchen finks
4
stillmoon cavalier
21 spells
3
Edge of Divinity
4
unmake
4
recumbent bliss
2
prison term
3
hallowed burial
2
light from within
3
turn to mist
some lands
SB
-
Beckon Apparition
-
Spitemare
-
Spirit of the Hearth
and/or
Purity
(against burn decks)
-others
does this deck seem to be viable? or something like this? Or is the B/W deck prolly better?
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