[leesteht]

So, I seem to think Ravager will be BIG beats for extended this upcoming season.

Any opinions?

[imachampion]

So, I seem to think Ravager will be BIG beats for extended this upcoming season.

Any opinions?

Its going to be one of the better decks in Extended for sure. My qustion is...can you deal with the hate? Since its already Red for Berserk...Guttural Response seems like a good choice to help combat Hurkyl's Recall which can be devastating.

My question would be...is Affinity better than the Goblin variants?

Another thing to consider coming off your GP run...Faeries is very good in Extended. Just throwing that out there.

[leesteht]

I've had a few people say that, but I don't know what the extended Faeries deck looks like.

[imachampion]

I've had a few people say that, but I don't know what the extended Faeries deck looks like.

They are strikingly similar to both the Block and Standard faeries lists. The counterspells and landbases are upgraded and you add in the broken stick...Umezawa's Jitte...and Vedalken Shackles. The biggest glaring loss is Force Spike and Counterspell. This will be a hurdle that will have to be tackled. I think that this is where [card]Thoughtseize and Mana Leak will shine here. I am a huge fan of the ridiculous power of both [card]Thoughtseize and Vendillion Clique. You just rip apart peoples hand and force them to play honest. Here are a few of the more recent lists off of deckcheck.net.

Lands: 22 4 Mutavault 18 Snow-Covered Island Creatures: 18 4 Mistbind Clique 3 Pestermite 4 Scion of Oona 4 Spellstutter Sprite 3 Vendilion Clique Spells: 20 4 Counterspell 4 Cryptic Command 4 Force Spike 4 Remand 3 Ponder 1 Vedalken Shackles Sideboard: 15 3 Divert 3 Echoing Truth 3 Stifle 3 Threads of Disloyalty 3 Tormod's Crypt

Lands: 24 9 Island 4 Mutavault 4 Polluted Delta 1 Riptide Laboratory 2 Secluded Glen 4 Watery Grave Creatures: 15 2 Mistbind Clique 3 Pestermite 3 Scion of Oona 4 Spellstutter Sprite 3 Vendilion Clique Spells: 21 4 Counterspell 3 Cryptic Command 3 Force Spike 3 Spell Snare 4 Ancestral Vision 4 Bitterblossom Sideboard: 15 2 Venser, Shaper Savant 2 Extirpate 2 Stifle 4 Leyline of the Void 3 Umezawa's Jitte 2 Vedalken Shackles

Lands: 24 3 Flooded Strand 9 Island 4 Mutavault 3 Polluted Delta 2 Riptide Laboratory 3 Watery Grave Creatures: 8 4 Spellstutter Sprite 4 Vendilion Clique Spells: 28 4 Counterspell 3 Cryptic Command 3 Force Spike 4 Spell Snare 4 Ancestral Vision 3 Bitterblossom 2 Threads of Disloyalty 2 Umezawa's Jitte 3 Vedalken Shackles Sideboard: 15 1 Offalsnout 2 Venser, Shaper Savant 3 Annul 1 Cryptic Command 2 Extirpate 4 Leyline of the Void 2 Threads of Disloyalty

Lands: 24 4 Mutavault 2 Riptide Laboratory 18 Snow-Covered Island Creatures: 14 4 Mistbind Clique 3 Pestermite 4 Spellstutter Sprite 3 Vendilion Clique Spells: 15 4 Counterspell 3 Cryptic Command 4 Force Spike 1 Mana Leak 3 Spell Snare 4 Ancestral Vision 2 Umezawa's Jitte 1 Vedalken Shackles Sideboard: 15 2 Venser, Shaper Savant 1 Divert 2 Hurkyl's Recall 4 Threads of Disloyalty 2 Sun Droplet 4 Tormod's Crypt

And then there is Paul Cheon's Standard list which could make a port into Extended. A few upgrades later and this could be the new t3ch.

Lands: 25 2 Faerie Conclave 5 Island 4 Mutavault 1 Pendelhaven 2 River of Tears 4 Secluded Glen 3 Sunken Ruins 4 Underground River Creatures: 11 4 Mistbind Clique 4 Shadowmage Infiltrator 3 Spellstutter Sprite Spells: 24 4 Cryptic Command 2 Remove Soul 4 Rune Snag 2 Slaughter Pact 4 Terror 4 Ancestral Vision 4 Bitterblossom Sideboard: 15 3 Bottle Gnomes 2 Murderous Redcap 2 Razormane Masticore 2 Extirpate 2 Damnation 4 Thoughtseize

[leesteht]

Thanks for that insight! I will definitely build and test.

[contra-coup]

Guttural Response can't target Fracturing Gust.

My question would be...is Affinity better than the Goblin variants?

Doesn't goblins lose most of it's key players in October? 

[gp]

 :usa:watch out for the raves crime life from the loam combo

[BassmanARW]

Lee -

Do you think that Doran is still viable?

[imachampion]

Lee -

Do you think that Doran is still viable?

While I am obviously not Lee...I think it is viable...but I think that there are better smarter options.

[leesteht]

I won't be playing Doran :P

[BassmanARW]

While I am obviously not Lee...I think it is viable...but I think that there are better smarter options.

Well the extended format is around the corner, yet I have not really done anything with extended competitively as I have never needed to, along with kind of fearing the insanity of dredge honestly. I have played Doran and Faeries in standard. I have heard that they both are also extended decks and have seen them both in action; however, got the general idea from people that there are better options: affinity, tron, etc. I have done generally decent in PTQs and such and realize that much testing would be needed; however, what would be a good deck to suggest to someone in my position?

[gp]

watch out for the ethersworn cartoonist and erayo,soratami ascendant combo becuse if they both are one the board you are almost locked out of the game

[leesteht]

Ok what does everyone think of this list:

4 Wild Nacatl
4 Kird Ape
3 Figure of Destiny
4 Dark Confidant
3 Kitchen Fink
2 Gaddock Teeg
2 Kataki
4 Tribal Flames
4 Tarmagoyf
2 Jitte
1 Sword Fire and Ice
3 Chrome Mox
4 Lightning Helix

This is runnning pretty well and it's standard. What do ya think?

[Lythand]

Ok what does everyone think of this list:

4 Wild Nacatl
4 Kird Ape
3 Figure of Destiny
4 Dark Confidant
3 Kitchen Fink
2 Gaddock Teeg
2 Kataki
4 Tribal Flames
4 Tarmagoyf
2 Jitte
1 Sword Fire and Ice
3 Chrome Mox
4 Lightning Helix

This is runnning pretty well and it's standard. What do ya think?

Standard??

Cardlinks pls

From what I see looks like a tight deck, would like to see it in action though.

[leesteht]

meaning it's a standard build for zoo in extended