[Trick]

What did you think of the episode? This episode featured the music video from the tournament on Saturday, six of our picks for interesting Shadowmoor cards, and our two Shadowmoor feature cards (one exclusive, one shared.) What did you think? Did you enjoy the music video? How about our joke?

If you're reading this and the episode hasn't been posted, wait until midnight EST. It will go live then.

-- Trick

[Alicabob]

I'm just watching the episode right now and Lee just said that you can conspire more then one copy. Is this true? I was under the impression it only worked once.

[Tresserhorn]

Hi.

I just saw the pod cast and I really enjoyed listening to your opinions.

Just FYI, I think you should keep up with what Wizards is publushing with thier previews.  The ruling that was given concerning Conspire is incorrect.

502.78. Conspire

502.78a Conspire is a keyword that represents two abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the spell is on the stack. The second is a triggered ability that functions while the spell is on the stack. "Conspire" means "As an additional cost to play this spell, you may tap two untapped creatures you control that each share a color with it" and "When you play this spell, if its conspire cost was paid, copy it. If the spell has any targets, you may choose new targets for the copy." Paying a spell's conspire cost follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 409.1b and 409.1f-h.

502.78b If a spell has multiple instances of conspire, each is paid separately and triggers based on its own payment, not any other instance of conspire.

If you choose to pay a conspire cost of a multicolored spell, the two creatures you tap don't need to share a color with each other. Each one just needs to share a color with the spell that has conspire.

You may pay a spell's conspire cost only once. (If a spell has multiple instances of conspire,
you may pay each conspire cost only once.)

A copy created with conspire will have a conspire ability itself. However, since that copy wasn't played, its conspire ability won't trigger. You won't get another copy.

The copy you create with conspire is separate from the original spell. If either one of them is countered, the other remains on the stack.

If conspire's triggered ability is countered (by the ScourgeTM spell Stifle, for example), no copy will be created. The original spell will be unaffected.

I bolded the section in question.

another FYI, the Guildmage you refer to durring the pod cast makes Saproling tokens ;)

Can't wait to see the next one.

[Trick]

Thanks for the correction!

[Tresserhorn]

Thank you for not biting my head off for it. 

[Trick]

Not at all, we're doing our best to get these things right but we do get things wrong and we're glad to correct anything we do get wrong!

We're here to help players, not confuse them!

-- Trick

[BigFiber]

Good show guys. I liked your preview card, amazing in Limited.

Really like the music vid with pics from the event. But I don't recall seeing you Trick! Lee was all over the place!

So who won the thing and what were they running? Or is this info easily attained on the main page and I am blind?

Saturday can't get here fast enough!! My birthday weekend and I am gonig to Philly both days!! W00T!!

Honestly, a weekend full of Magic with old friends is a wonderful thing...

[Trick]

I'm in 2 of the pics, otherwise it's because I was the one taking all the pictures so you don't see my mug.

As for what won, I'm getting the final standings from TJ today and will have that info up tonight. As I recall Top 8 was as follows (but this isn't definite yet):

3x Doran
2x Reveillark
2x Faeries
1x RDW

But that is just from memory and is likely quite skewed. I don't know what won because top 4 split the prize and we decided to just go ahead and not play it out. In my mind if players split the prize then the stats are skewed because they didn't care about their rating and winning or losing. In the future we probably won't allow splitting, or limit further.

[cRUMMYdUMMY]

I doubt Augery Adept is going to be any good.  It's inferior to Dimir Curpurse from Ravnica, and even that card wasn't played much.  Any card like Ophidian that does not have evasion or some sort of discouragement to block it (ie: deathtouch on Ohran Viper), will not be played much.

[BigFiber]

Without it being sanctioned...they can agree to split but should be made to play it out. That's why you guys were out there, to see what decks were best.

IMO...

I agree that without evasion, the little Kithkin guy is not very good. He's a Limited "I'll play it if I get it" and a casual constructed card. His $$ will spike early and then drop.

But Lee does like him and well, he was so correct about Mutavault being overrated/

Sorry about the dig Lee, but man...could you have been more off?

[theory]

I 100% hate you guys for making me think Necro was back.

I ran into a deck on MWS the other day running Shadowmoor cards and the Druid/Wizard that untaps for G mana is 100% badass with a Might of Old Krosa.  During main phase after it gets cast (earliest turn 3) tap for G, cast Might (becomes 4/6), untap up to 6 times (-6/-6) for GGGGGG + up to 3 mana assuming you put lands down every turn...that's up to 9 mana by turn 3.  That Mossbridge Troll, obscenely large generic wurm, et al doesn't look so stupid in your opening hand anymore.

[imachampion]

Great show guys. The Music Video was insane. I loved it.

[SammyTime]

Timmys of the world rejoice for MN's preview card! Honestly, I would like it a lot better if it had true evasion. If it's going to have Shroud, does it really need 8 toughness? I can understand it having 8 toughness without Shroud to get it out of range of most removal spells, but oh well.

[BassmanARW]

I doubt Augery Adept is going to be any good.  It's inferior to Dimir Curpurse from Ravnica, and even that card wasn't played much.  Any card like Ophidian that does not have evasion or some sort of discouragement to block it (ie: deathtouch on Ohran Viper), will not be played much.

Adept will see play in the right deck. The problem is that people are seeing this and thinking, hmm...well it is a kithkin, but it's ability won't be able to hit in a kithkin deck so it won't make it. This could easily see play in manniquen, maybe lark, or essentially UW control in general. If a deck is busy killing, bouncing or countering your stuff then Adept will have his glory haha. You can play this is either mono white, mono blue or UW. Because of the reasons listed by you and many others, I don't think that this will be THE chase rare, but that is no reason why it won't be used competitively.

As for the comparison to Ohran Viper, no this isn't as good as Viper. In comparison to the new Dusk Urchins, I think Urchins actually takes the prize. The problem with Viper is that right now his deathtouch ability doesn't matter. There are creatures in any deck right now that have a power of 3 of equal or less mana cost to trade. Elves will trade Vanquisher or beast token with it, Faeries will fly over it or chump it all day with Bitterblossom, kithkin have tricks to easily trade, RDW will Incinerate it, etc. The only deck that may truly fear it to an extent is Reveillark or Doran due to bigger creatures. Viper is essentially only used in Doran right now and is essentially being taken out of decks because there aren't enough big guys to where deathtouch matters and he rarely will actually give you cards. Adept doesn't have deathtouch to make the OPP afraid to block; however, Adept would be used in a control deck to where it would have a much better chance of getting through than Viper. Dusk Urchins will be a solid 3 drop that could be used in any black deck or maybe Doran as an alternative 3 drop. It only has to attack once to get you a replacement card and will probably take out another creature. If he isn't block, then you probably get 2 cards out of him. His drawback isn't huge because Viper rarely gets any CA because he is chumped by tokens or traded with lower coverted mana costs.

[theory]

Also (since nobody commented on it or I missed it from last episode) I think the way you guys split the cards in half when talking about it to focus on the abilities, text, etc. makes viewing cards a lot cleaner though it would be nice if the card was a little bigger.  I also liked the previous format when the screen was split to focus on a larger card or list.  Both work either way for me but overall I'm glad to see you guys are willing to experiment with new looks for the show.